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to congress by the cia, that this was an intelligence assessment. republicans pounced and attacked and suggested that improperly the white house or others altered those talking points, changed the intelligence assessment, and what the release of these e-mails show is that republicans are wrong. they were wrong then, and they're wrong now. and this has been a highly politicized affair about, you know, that totally misses the point about what happened in benghazi. we should be focused on finding out who did it, who killed four americans and bring them to justice. that's what the president's focused on. we should be focused on taking action to ensure that we have the appropriate security for our diplomats and our diplomatic facilities to make sure that this doesn't happen again. that's what this president's been focused on. you heard him talk about that again today. when it comes to the issue of al qaeda, as i said, i think if you look at the e-mails, the changes that you're talking about, some of them were made by the cia internally and the other issu
to congress by the cia, that this was an intelligence assessment. republicans pounced and attacked and suggested that improperly the white house or others altered those talking points, changed the intelligence assessment, and what the release of these e-mails show is that republicans are wrong. they were wrong then, and they're wrong now. and this has been a highly politicized affair about, you know, that totally misses the point about what happened in benghazi. we should be focused on finding...
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the biggest presence was in a completely cia operation and they were relying on the cia for security. so, of course, as they work out the talking points, the question becomes, who is to blame for the absence of the security and the cia is saying, not us, we're not responsible for consulates and the state department is saying it has to be. >> steve, do you believe ultimately the white house made this decision we're then going to limit information even more so? >> i think all white houses do that. >> knee jerk -- >> well, this white house, but i would say the bush/cheney white house engaged in the same kind of information withholding on a variety of issues. people may not remember that now and it's one of the problems emdemic of executive branches who become obsessed with not only secrecy, but not wanting information out and worrying about the risk. they are trying to coordinate and synthesize a story. put them out. >> say we don't know yet. >> some interesting revelations that were very compelling. in my view, doesn't change, in my mind, what would have been likely on the ground. and y
the biggest presence was in a completely cia operation and they were relying on the cia for security. so, of course, as they work out the talking points, the question becomes, who is to blame for the absence of the security and the cia is saying, not us, we're not responsible for consulates and the state department is saying it has to be. >> steve, do you believe ultimately the white house made this decision we're then going to limit information even more so? >> i think all white...
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and there are internal problems in the cia. mike morel, the deputy, and petraeus disagreeing about whether al qaeda references should have been left in. to try to spin it, that we had won the war on terror against al qaeda or as the white house claims, it was simply trying to eliminate confusing references before the fbi had begun investigating. as an outsider, a bystander, you have no stake in this. what do you think? >> a combination of both. i think there were those in the administration that wanted to minimize it was a terrorist attack because the president by prior statements saying we are winning that war. i think it was a mistake to put that out. yes, al qaeda has been weakened but it is like a cancer and the cells continue to spread in various places at various levels and it is a long term commitment. terrorism is not going away. to the extend they tried to say this is not terrorism, a mistake was made. on the other hand. it is clear that the fact is that the issue being missed here is that why did the cia not have bett
and there are internal problems in the cia. mike morel, the deputy, and petraeus disagreeing about whether al qaeda references should have been left in. to try to spin it, that we had won the war on terror against al qaeda or as the white house claims, it was simply trying to eliminate confusing references before the fbi had begun investigating. as an outsider, a bystander, you have no stake in this. what do you think? >> a combination of both. i think there were those in the...
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the cia disputed who was in charge. at the end of the day, it was the deputy cia director morale who took out a lot of language whose deletion republicans object to. by the way, every iteration of the talking point from the first to the last included the assertion originally from the cia that the assault on the facility had originated from an anti-american demonstration. and a lot of people have said, well, the white house just made that up, it was a convenient narrative. that's what the intelligence community was saying from the get-go. susan rice had no role in the talking points. she was totally shafted. they sent her out with these things that she played no part in. she read them and missed the chance to be secretary of state as a result. >> marc l marco rubio was on the daily run down and was asked about security and benghazi. here is what he said. >> the security they had there was inadequate. the ability to respond to the attack was inadequate. that falls on the state department. my concern is the people who made
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it is cia. this is what is going on is not a relevant point. >> i think we've reached a real sad stage in been gazay. i want to be very clear. i will say this today on "the cycle." there is an abuse of power in benghazi. the abuse of power is the complete exploitation and politicalization of this strategy by some members of the republican party in the house. that is outrageous. and we know that because at the very time that they are supposedly investigating this, accusing the white house of as the president said today, some sort of weird three-day political conspiracy where it would be hidden but only for a few days and then they would acknowledge it was terrorism, while they're doing that, the national republican election commission, committee, excuse me, is fundraising off benghazi and they moved the target. it is disgusting. it has gone totally out of control and it is also sad because, and i don't say this just to beat up. i think it is absolutely true that we have to investigate these irs c
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turns out the original drafts talked about extremists with links to al-qaeda and noted the cia had warned for months about threats in benghazi. but all that was taken out before susan rice went on the sunday talk shows. we invited congressmen from two key house panels. mike rogers the republican chair of the intelligence committee and from seattle adam smith the top democrat on the armed services committee. you were on "fox news sunday" september 16 right after susan rice came on the show he and she said it was a spontaneous reaction to a video he that had been hijacked by extremists. from the very beginning you doubted her account. let's watch. >> i have serious questions. it seemed to be a military style coordinated. i'm just suspect that they could come to that conclusion that it was a spontaneous effort given the coordination of it. >> chris: after what you learned this week, the fact of what state department officials were saying during the attack. how often and the talking points were changed, did the obama administration mislead or even lie to the american people? >> well, it is --
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that the cia had infiltrated an al qaeda plot to blow up an airliner. the bomb was a more advanced version the so-called underwear bomber attempted to use on christmas day in 2009. here was nbc news reporting at the time. >> this is a remarkable success for the intelligence agencies of the united states and its allies. and here's why. they managed to insert a critical informant into the very heart of the terror group that's considered the number one threat to the united states. al qaeda's offshoot in yemen. >> reporter: administration and intelligence officials say by the time this most recent plot was in its final planning stages, the u.s. and its allies were able to follow it in detail. what the terrorists in yemen did not know at the time these officials say is that the person they chose to be the suicide bomber was actually an informant, someone who had agreed to cooperate with an ally intelligence service. members of congress declined to be specific but praised the cia and the overseas counterparts. >> this was incredibly good intelligence work. th
that the cia had infiltrated an al qaeda plot to blow up an airliner. the bomb was a more advanced version the so-called underwear bomber attempted to use on christmas day in 2009. here was nbc news reporting at the time. >> this is a remarkable success for the intelligence agencies of the united states and its allies. and here's why. they managed to insert a critical informant into the very heart of the terror group that's considered the number one threat to the united states. al qaeda's...
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turning to iran, where state radio is reporting that two men have been executed for spying for the cia. they've been convicted by tehran's revolutionary guard court and were hanged at dawn. iran regularly accuses the u.s. and israel of spying. particularly on its nuclear program. >>> and north korea, adding one more rocket launch to this weekend. a short-range missile fell into the waters off north korea's coast today. the launch has set back recent moves to ease tensions on the korean peninsula and appear to have been provoked by the arrival of the u.s. aircraft carrier, "nimitz" in the region. >>> now, to the irs targeting tea party and special groups for scrutiny. the white house of course under fire because treasury department officials were told of the irs investigation a year ago. but tonight, we have learned that some republican members of congress were also told back then. abc's reena ninan joining us from the white house. reena, good evening. >> reporter: david, good evening. a senior obama adviser said the white house officials were first made aware of the irs probe in late.
turning to iran, where state radio is reporting that two men have been executed for spying for the cia. they've been convicted by tehran's revolutionary guard court and were hanged at dawn. iran regularly accuses the u.s. and israel of spying. particularly on its nuclear program. >>> and north korea, adding one more rocket launch to this weekend. a short-range missile fell into the waters off north korea's coast today. the launch has set back recent moves to ease tensions on the korean...
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it was a cia office in benghazi. we did not want to advertise that. that is why the ambassador was there, and w we did promise this was going to be the most open and transparent administration in history. i think liberals and conservativeves would acknowlede the pmise has not been kept. >> this thing got off track by the critics. first of all, susan rice s at fault. shwas misleading the american people. she was not doing ything of the sort. this is something that came to her. she got a copy of the talking points and used them. she should have said to them, this is not in my job description. but she sold tse talking points. the other thing is that it was not of the consulate.-- not a consulate. this is why they were fighting over in the talking points, it was a cia operation. when the cia put langge in the talking points, the state department said this was your they took that out. the only political thing was a reference to congress reacting to that statement. >> whoho also worked with the bh administration. the washington post said it follows after wh
it was a cia office in benghazi. we did not want to advertise that. that is why the ambassador was there, and w we did promise this was going to be the most open and transparent administration in history. i think liberals and conservativeves would acknowlede the pmise has not been kept. >> this thing got off track by the critics. first of all, susan rice s at fault. shwas misleading the american people. she was not doing ything of the sort. this is something that came to her. she got a...
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or the cia making itself look good at the expense of the state department. and then you have the second layer of why in the world were the white house and jay carney so insistent on arguing that the white house had -- and the state department had their hands completely off these talking points and only changed one word when it's entirely clear from what we now know that the state department in particular was very insistent on having these talking points watered down. >> hold on, both of you. i'm going to bring in congressman adam schiff. let me play what jay carney had to say. >> the only edits made at the white house were stylistic and not substantive. they changed the building from consulate to diplomatic facility. >> but we know the talking points were further watered down. so with someone either at the state department or white house trying to cover something up? >> i think the most significant err error in the talking points, and this has been lost in this discussion, the argument that this began as a spontaneous poe test. that stayed in the talking poi
or the cia making itself look good at the expense of the state department. and then you have the second layer of why in the world were the white house and jay carney so insistent on arguing that the white house had -- and the state department had their hands completely off these talking points and only changed one word when it's entirely clear from what we now know that the state department in particular was very insistent on having these talking points watered down. >> hold on, both of...
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why hasn't there been more focus on the -- the more we know, cia may have had more oversight over this outpost than any other agency. should there be more, should the intelligence committee, should there be more of an investigation into the cia's actions before, during and after? >> i think mr. issa's committee is not finished in that regard. i'm not a member of the intelligence committee and frankly, i'm not privy to all the conversations that go on there, but yes, the state department should be the focus of this as well as additional penetrating questions i'm glad on the house side, we have folks willing to ask the tough questions to get the facts out. >> all right, roger wicker, thanks for coming on this morning. >> thank you, sir. >> coming up, lawmakers are using words like sickening, abhorrent, to describe the latest string of military assault scandals. but first, how many sets of siblings have served sim ul tan yous ly in the senate. we know some of you folks when sander levin's on, you think carl levin. first person to tweet the correct answer gets an on air shout out. udalls a
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in fact, there's almost an antismoking gun, which is the e-mail from the general counsel of the cia, who at one point explicitly writes, i know there's a hurry to get this, but we need to hold it long enough to ascertain whether providing it, this is the original talking points which did have information about al qaeda, which did talk about libya being a wash in weapons and that this being likely an attack by militant extremists, but whether providing it conflicts with the expressed instructions from national security staff, doj, fbi, that in light of the criminal investigation, we are not to generate statements with assessments as to who did this. that sort of sets the ball in motion in terms of scrubbing out all relevant details about who was behind the attack from the talking points. then you put on top of that, that very revealing sort of bureaucratic knife fight between the state department and the cia in which state department officials are taking umbrage at the idea that there were cia warnings about the threat of a terrorist attack. clearly, the cia was trying to push that ou
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we had overwhelming evidence of a very serious crime committed, namely the leaking and exposure of a cia double agent who had gotten inside al qaeda in yemen and who had exposed and prevented a plot to take down an airliner that could have killed hundreds of americans. it is one of the most serious crimes that could occur against this country, one of the most serious criminal offenses. what the administration is doing, they were fully within the law in terms of just going after what they call toll records, actual phone numbers. no conversations were eavesdropped on. >> julian, i'm sorry, i have to interrupt. we have to leave it there. we have a jam packed show. obviously we will be on this subject, have you both back to talk again. julian especially stone, ari melber, thanks. >> thanks. >>> coming up, the coordinator of an army sexual assault prevention program is tonight accused of abusive sexual conduct. joy reid will join me on that. >>> and the governor of minnesota will join me. >>> later tonight, my exclusive interview with five watertown police officers that stopped the boston mar
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at issue the 2012 ap report revealing the cia's role in thwarting a terror plot in yemen. on tuesday eric holder defended the actions calling that article quota serious leak. >> this is among if not the most serious it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk and that's not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that i think required very aggressive action. >> holder recused himself from the matter because of a conflict of interest. the white house maintains it has no prior knowledge of the ap investigation. >>> for the second time in as many weeks a military member in charge of protecting victims of sexual assault is facing allegations of committing that crime himself. the pentagon says the coordinator of fort hood sexual assault prevention program is accused of forcing at least one subordinate soldier into prostitution and for sexual assaulting two others. he's been suspended and no charges have been filed. >>> defense secretary chuck hagel is ordering
at issue the 2012 ap report revealing the cia's role in thwarting a terror plot in yemen. on tuesday eric holder defended the actions calling that article quota serious leak. >> this is among if not the most serious it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk and that's not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that i think required very aggressive action. >>...
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timing suggests the covert investigation was to determine who leaked details about a cia operation in yemen which foiled a terrorist plot. and while people like rnc chairman reince priebus suddenly emerge from hiding to call for the attorney general's head on a platter, holder, himself, said today he recused himself from the decision to seek those media records to avoid any conflict of interest. but that he did support the investigation into a dangerous leak. >> it is the top two or three most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk, and that is not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who's responsible for that, i think, required very aggressive action. >> and as mr. holder prepares to be grilled by the house judiciary committee wednesday, it's worth noting this whole investigation was called for by members of congress such as senator john mccain. >> i call on the president to take immediate and decisive action, including the appointment of a special council, to aggressively investigate the leak of any classified informa
timing suggests the covert investigation was to determine who leaked details about a cia operation in yemen which foiled a terrorist plot. and while people like rnc chairman reince priebus suddenly emerge from hiding to call for the attorney general's head on a platter, holder, himself, said today he recused himself from the decision to seek those media records to avoid any conflict of interest. but that he did support the investigation into a dangerous leak. >> it is the top two or three...
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you look at that document dump on benghazi in those 100 e-mail we see concretely that it was the cia that said remove references to al qaeda. why didn't the white house get that information out sooner? with regard to this incident with the irs, tamron, i won't be surprised if there is a far more benign explanation. that there was a doubling of 501(c)(4) application and therefore somebody in cleveland was overwhelmed. didn't get additional resources and thought this was a shortcut to evaluate those applications. >> if that's the case, they should say it soon. the first thing they did was apologize. and they have since friday. if it is something as to your point of being overwhelmed, since we're always talking about leaks, someone might want to leak that out to try to clear up. right now it doesn't look good. michael tomasky, you have this article out. how to stop a scandal. you said you had already immediately called for the attorney general eric holder's rei go nation as it relates to the a.p. but you talk about some other things. has the administration started to stop any aspect of
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russians say he's a cia spy. so do cia spies in real life wear bad blond wigs? >>> plus, the latest on just how one man allegedly kept three women prisoners in a house for a decade. we have found the one huge red flag that his neighbors missed. we have a special investigation from cleveland tonight. >>> the feds want to lower the legal limit on drinking and driving. >>> plus tonight's shout out. prince harry meets governor christie. chris christie took harry to see the damage of sandy. they talked and had lunch at the governor's seaside retreat and christie presented him with a gift. he got his own blue fleece. now the governor was wearing a lovely mint shirt today but the blue fleece is similar to the one he was seen wearing day in and day out in the days after sandy struck. we'll be right back. >>> our third story "outfront" ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor
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you wrote a book about the cia. what is your take? >> it is an intrusion. ofre are millions investigations but as they go along, the government is careful to narrow them because they don't want to have massive investigations they get the press mad at them. for some reason that did not happen. it is typical prosecutors want these things but usually somebody at a higher level says wait a second, let's tone it down. that did not happen. i do not know why but it is puzzling. i will say it seems like a bad week -- leak. there is evidence it was harmful. >> you are in journalism but you have been part of the security apparatus. conducted investigations. i remember interviewing an official suspected of leaking. there was nothing else we could do. the idea of going after the press never occurred to us. this is bad for a number of reasons. we have a security apparatus that tries to prevent --etration of people that this did not comerom the enemy. hubris. done for waiting to boast about what they this operationt in yemen. it was nothing but hubris in that they wanted
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this has five reporters and an editor were an exclusive tip that the cia foiled an active terror thought in yemen tow coincide the death of osama bin laden. among the big issues here is the depth of the search. it was wide reaching and included home phones, cell
this has five reporters and an editor were an exclusive tip that the cia foiled an active terror thought in yemen tow coincide the death of osama bin laden. among the big issues here is the depth of the search. it was wide reaching and included home phones, cell
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seminole image and you write that classifying the actual photo of bin laden's body which you say the cia wanted that photo out there and instead it was classified and you write that that ensured that the defining moment of the operation was the obama security team resolute and astride in armchairs. why was that? >> this is what gets to the heart, i think of what bothers people generally about leak investigations, about secrecy and overclassification is thatta i lot of the decisions made to classify things that might be in the public's interest or the public would at least have a right to know, but certainly have an interest to know are made for political reasons and this was one of them not so much, the administration could not have classified the picture and not released it, but they classified it and it was national security information and the argument is if the picture got out as one administration official described to me way back when it could inflame tensions in the muslim world because it would show a very graphic image of a dead person. >> sort of like killing hill. >> right. bu
seminole image and you write that classifying the actual photo of bin laden's body which you say the cia wanted that photo out there and instead it was classified and you write that that ensured that the defining moment of the operation was the obama security team resolute and astride in armchairs. why was that? >> this is what gets to the heart, i think of what bothers people generally about leak investigations, about secrecy and overclassification is thatta i lot of the decisions made...
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to alter the talking points to eliminate references to terrorism or al qaeda in the e-mail show the cia not the warehostruck out the references. >> what is ironic about what has been caused by this is the accusation is the white hous or others had altered the intelligence community's assessment. thats false. >> may rai plenty ofnew questions that shows the white house spokesperson also alerting colleagues the man who now heads the cia john brennan the a white house official a then boarded the changes including stripping a line from the talking points that the perpetrators hails from many sectors of libyan society thatontradicts comments from secretary carney that the only change was stylistic changing the wordonsulate to the word diplomatic facility in the editing process. >> with the benghazi talking points must be frustrating right now and my ffrst guest sees it as a cover-up from the beginning and joining us now is donald trump's fall former secretary of defense with george w. bush and author of the book and leadership lessons of politics and mr. secretary great to have you. you knew
to alter the talking points to eliminate references to terrorism or al qaeda in the e-mail show the cia not the warehostruck out the references. >> what is ironic about what has been caused by this is the accusation is the white hous or others had altered the intelligence community's assessment. thats false. >> may rai plenty ofnew questions that shows the white house spokesperson also alerting colleagues the man who now heads the cia john brennan the a white house official a then...
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with high profile attacks leading to cia deaths as with the attack on the cia boast in afghanistan in december, 2009, in which seven cia officials were killed, sometimes the cia publicly acknowledges and honors cia officials killed but that did not happen in this case. then cia director david patraeus did not attend the funerals of woods and doherty. obviously cia officers feel it imperative to keep their work in the shadows but that in this case may also keep some of the answers about benghazi in the dark as well. >>> coming up, not a great week for the president but while the scandals swirl there is a little teenie bit of good news getting ground out, the deficit problem may be slowing -- not disappearing -- slowing. breaking news out of the arab world. an al qaeda backed suicide attack is foiled in egypt. the reported target? western embassies. we'll have an update when "the we'll have an update when "the lead" continues. b positive?? have you eaten today? i had some lebanese food for lunch. i love the lebanese. i... i'm not sure. enough of the formalities... lets get started shall
with high profile attacks leading to cia deaths as with the attack on the cia boast in afghanistan in december, 2009, in which seven cia officials were killed, sometimes the cia publicly acknowledges and honors cia officials killed but that did not happen in this case. then cia director david patraeus did not attend the funerals of woods and doherty. obviously cia officers feel it imperative to keep their work in the shadows but that in this case may also keep some of the answers about benghazi...
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report revealing cia's role thwarting a terror plot. they call that article a serious leak. >> this is among, if not the most serious, it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk. and that is not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that, i think required very aggressive action. >> holder recused himself from the matter because of a conflict of interest. the white house maintains it had no prior knowledge of the a.p. investigation. >>> for the second time in as many weeks, a military member in charge of protecting victims of sexual assault is facing allegations of it himself. he is accused of forcing one soldier into prostitution. and for sexually assaulting at least two others. the sergeant first class has been suspended. and no charges have been filed. >>> meanwhile, defense secretary chuck hagel is ordering all sexual assault personnel in all services to go through a new training and screening program. this, as a
report revealing cia's role thwarting a terror plot. they call that article a serious leak. >> this is among, if not the most serious, it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk. and that is not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that, i think required very aggressive action. >> holder recused himself from the matter because of a conflict of interest. the...
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we just reached the cia, which is also not commenting. what's very curious here is that the russians released video of this man wearing this almost comical-looking wig. they released images of what the fsb says are his belongings including wig, a knife, dark glasses, a taxicab map of moscow. so stereotypical of the spy craft and eric o'neil, former counterintelligence official who took down spy robert hanson thinks this is staged by the russian, they placed this material on him. why would a cia officer who is actually doing some recruiting be running around moscow with really bad wigs and all that other stuff. o'neil believes this was manufactured for political purposes from the russians to develop some kind of anti-american sentiment. i ran that by an official at the russian embassy here in washington this morning. he refused to comment on that. >> he was detained, as you point out, by the fsb, the counterintelligence agency in russia. tell us a little more about this agency. >> reporter: well, it's the russian's main domestic security a
we just reached the cia, which is also not commenting. what's very curious here is that the russians released video of this man wearing this almost comical-looking wig. they released images of what the fsb says are his belongings including wig, a knife, dark glasses, a taxicab map of moscow. so stereotypical of the spy craft and eric o'neil, former counterintelligence official who took down spy robert hanson thinks this is staged by the russian, they placed this material on him. why would a cia...
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it was a cia outpost with diplomatic cover. what you see in the e-mails, state being like oh, no, you don't, cia, don't put this on us, this was your facility that you have to defend. >> and god knows what went on before that. >> president obama called it a side show which was being incredibly generous. this story, the fact we are talking about it eight months later, the crafting, editing of basically a pr release for members of congress is amazing. and that's based on very bad reporting in the last week. >> yes, thank you. on friday when there was e-mails obtained, actually no, e-mails shown to republican congressional staffers who have an ax to grind who they be paraphrased them. >> who then passed on to the press, passed on to jonathan carl of abc news and passed on inaccurate summaries that the white house was playing politics. >> paraphrases that appeared in quotes. >> this signals that the white house itself thinks there's nothing there, but they poured fuel on the fire. they looked at a news cycle in which they've got th
it was a cia outpost with diplomatic cover. what you see in the e-mails, state being like oh, no, you don't, cia, don't put this on us, this was your facility that you have to defend. >> and god knows what went on before that. >> president obama called it a side show which was being incredibly generous. this story, the fact we are talking about it eight months later, the crafting, editing of basically a pr release for members of congress is amazing. and that's based on very bad...
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that's manipulating the cia to get the truth. >> the cia can't stand up for itself and get the facts, saying, these are the facts? >> the fact is, there was a fact witness, his name was ambassador stevens. he said greg, we're under attack to his number two. that was the definitive statement from the ambassador on the ground before he was murdered. you have a fact witness. and you follow that up with fact witness after fact witness. so to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real truth is, the people who were there in tripoli and in benghazi knew this was a terrorist attack from the get-go. that's been said under oath. and that's the reason that we need to know more about how nin ning -- things got changed. >> chairman, my reporting of the immediate aftermath of this talking to administration officials is that ci a director david petraeus made it clear when he briefed top officials that there was a spontaneous element to this, that it was not completely known that this was a terrorist attack right away. you don't give any credence to the notion that there was some fog of war, that
that's manipulating the cia to get the truth. >> the cia can't stand up for itself and get the facts, saying, these are the facts? >> the fact is, there was a fact witness, his name was ambassador stevens. he said greg, we're under attack to his number two. that was the definitive statement from the ambassador on the ground before he was murdered. you have a fact witness. and you follow that up with fact witness after fact witness. so to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real...
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the general counsel said cia said let's be careful, folks. the fbi and the people doing the investigation don't want us talking about who we think might be responsible. and then later on, there is an anti-smoking gun. a memo on the 14th which was the day before susan rice went on tv from a guy named matt olson who is a long time anti-terrorism guy. he is the head of the national anti-terrorism center. he said at this point, we're not aware of any actionable intelligence that this attack was planned or imminent. the intelligence community is combing through before and after to determine the full extent of who was involved. i dotted there is some evidence in here that the state department was covering themselves because they had some warnings about possible problems along these lines. but it doesn't seem to implicate hillary clinton and it certainly doesn't match the narrative that this was all somehow a political cover-up of what actually happened on those days. so i'm glad the white house released the reports. we're going to pore through them
the general counsel said cia said let's be careful, folks. the fbi and the people doing the investigation don't want us talking about who we think might be responsible. and then later on, there is an anti-smoking gun. a memo on the 14th which was the day before susan rice went on tv from a guy named matt olson who is a long time anti-terrorism guy. he is the head of the national anti-terrorism center. he said at this point, we're not aware of any actionable intelligence that this attack was...
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so the cia was super aggressive. all the talking points were reduced to mush and politics was inserted into it. i don't think we should necessarily say this is politics intruding on a cia pure operation. >> congressman, don't you see the muddle in all of in that it's not so clearly watergate as some republicans allege? >> look, i'm not out to try to bring anybody down. i just want the answers. i look at a couple of things. number one, who i think chaed the talking points? these are questions that go to motivation. i know that ambassador rice went on every morning show and said this was a result of a youtube video. this was not a terrorist attack. it was frankly told to us in a closed door meeting in congress by hillary clinton, too. as a pilot in the military, i went to survival training and the first thing they tell you, your country, just know your country will be move heaven and earth to come get you and it appears in this case the country didn't move haven nor earth to can get them. the administration said we had
so the cia was super aggressive. all the talking points were reduced to mush and politics was inserted into it. i don't think we should necessarily say this is politics intruding on a cia pure operation. >> congressman, don't you see the muddle in all of in that it's not so clearly watergate as some republicans allege? >> look, i'm not out to try to bring anybody down. i just want the answers. i look at a couple of things. number one, who i think chaed the talking points? these are...
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. >> the white house and cia e-mail show how they came up with the now infamous and incorrect talking points to call them a terrorist act ambassador rice made the round last week last september to claim the attack was the result of a spontaneous demonstration triggered by the inflammatory video release the mails today after republicans charged snippets that became public show members of the president's staff were involved to alter the talking points to eliminate references to terrorism or al qaeda in the e-mail show the cia not the warehouse struck out the references. >> what is ironic about what has been caused by this is the accusation is the white house or others had altered the intelligence community's assessment. that is false. >> may raise plenty of new questions that shows the white house spokesperson also alerting colleagues the man who now heads the cia john brennan then a white house official and then boarded the changes including stripping a line from the talking points that the perpetrators hails from many sectors of libyan society that contradicts comments from secretary
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, mike morel and then the cia director, david petraeus. david petraeus, after all the e-mails are in the eyes of republicans scrub said the following in one of these e-mails, he says, "i just as soon not use these." that's what critics are pouncing on tonight. an assertion they believe because there's no evidence that the cia officials actually independently wanted these changes. that's just what they told us in this private briefing. there's no evidence of that. and these e-mails, they believe the white house and state department played a significant role in this process. >> not surprising critics still believe that. i've reviewed some of them, and what strikes me is what you have is a situation of a white house trying to referee a whole -- herding a whole lot of cats that have different stakes on this issue and what ultimately happens in any of these situations if you've ever been part of collaborative process, cooperation, where everybody's got a veto is you go to the lowest common denominator, which is to say the least amount possible,
, mike morel and then the cia director, david petraeus. david petraeus, after all the e-mails are in the eyes of republicans scrub said the following in one of these e-mails, he says, "i just as soon not use these." that's what critics are pouncing on tonight. an assertion they believe because there's no evidence that the cia officials actually independently wanted these changes. that's just what they told us in this private briefing. there's no evidence of that. and these e-mails,...
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the cia never asked them to kill the story. very important to know. for five days the ap sat on the story, they took care of their asset. they said it's safe to run the story. they ran it. they needed an extra day. they wanted their pr plan to go in place. now, what happens is, other news organizations is going to be less trusting of the government. >> but, ron is right. it extends worldwide. we're the standard bearer of freedom of the press. suppressing information, they'll look to the united states, oh, well, president obama is doing that to their press we can do it, too. ron is absolutely right. look, we're going too take your logs out, it's all about relationship and trust. and if those sources say, hey, i'm not going to do this because in fear of possible investigation or what have you, that's a problem for us to disseminate fact chul information. >> one of the reasons the ap should have been consulted. i think there's a strong case to be made that the white house or the justice department could have gone to a court and had them adjudicate it as
the cia never asked them to kill the story. very important to know. for five days the ap sat on the story, they took care of their asset. they said it's safe to run the story. they ran it. they needed an extra day. they wanted their pr plan to go in place. now, what happens is, other news organizations is going to be less trusting of the government. >> but, ron is right. it extends worldwide. we're the standard bearer of freedom of the press. suppressing information, they'll look to the...
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i don't know if the ap went to the cia or the cia went to the ap, it's not material. the government said that she this is dangerous. please don't put this information out. the ap as news organizations do, held off on this story. right? the cia never asked them to kill the story. that's very important to know. for five days the ap sat on the story, they took care of their asset. the cia said that it's safe to run the story. a few hours later it, they said we need an extra day because we want to put out a press release. now, what happens is, other news organizations is going to be less trusting of the government. >> but, ron is right. it extends worldwide. we are the standard bearer of freedom of the press. and then you have these nations suppressing information, they'll look to the united states saying, oh, well, president obama is doing that to their press we can do it, too. ron is absolutely right. if you can start saying, look, we're going too take your logs out, it's all about relationship and trust. and if those sources say, hey, i'm not going to do this because i
i don't know if the ap went to the cia or the cia went to the ap, it's not material. the government said that she this is dangerous. please don't put this information out. the ap as news organizations do, held off on this story. right? the cia never asked them to kill the story. that's very important to know. for five days the ap sat on the story, they took care of their asset. the cia said that it's safe to run the story. a few hours later it, they said we need an extra day because we want to...
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is the cia trying to cover it. we also now know that one of the two facilities attacked was a cia annex and what role did that have in the attacks and what the security situation was in this compound are questions that have not been asked publicly by republicans on the hill and we don't have answers to those. >> is this certainly something more stemming from interagency issues going back and forth about what could be talked about? we know that petraeus got on the record saying what are we talking about? >> what this document dump showed is that the cia was much more involved than we believed. the senior administration officials stressed that the talking points were changed even quite a bit within the cia before they got to the other agencies and before they got to the white house even. i think david raises a lot of good points in the cia's role. republicans were quick to rush and defend the cia in order to hurt the state department. so now the cia's role should get more scrutiny. >> it has been a wild week in washi
is the cia trying to cover it. we also now know that one of the two facilities attacked was a cia annex and what role did that have in the attacks and what the security situation was in this compound are questions that have not been asked publicly by republicans on the hill and we don't have answers to those. >> is this certainly something more stemming from interagency issues going back and forth about what could be talked about? we know that petraeus got on the record saying what are we...
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learn this may have an a cia outpost? >> there are two different facilities there. let me just say this. as far as the consulate situation is concerned and where the ambassador was, there was a steady string of reporting. this was a dangerous part of the country. benghazi was a particularly dangerous place. the british left because of it. if you were going leave that place open, you better have enough security there and security there was inadequate and ability to respond to the attack was inadequate and that falls on the state department and my biggest fears is the people that made that decision are still making those decisions now for our outposts around the nation. >> do you support the law by senator schumer? >> i haven't read it or understand the details of it. i'm concerned about what happened to the associated press and i'm concerned what i think was an abuse of power at the department of justice as well. i'll need to read that law before i can give you a hard opinion on it. >> all right. senator marco rubio, repub
learn this may have an a cia outpost? >> there are two different facilities there. let me just say this. as far as the consulate situation is concerned and where the ambassador was, there was a steady string of reporting. this was a dangerous part of the country. benghazi was a particularly dangerous place. the british left because of it. if you were going leave that place open, you better have enough security there and security there was inadequate and ability to respond to the attack...
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. >> reporter: cia station chief in libya cabled home that benghazi was a terrorist attack, and first version of cia talking points on benghazi drafted september 15 started we do know that islamicki extremists were tied. >> reporter: president obama did disclose today that talking points delivered by his u.n. ambassador, quote pretty much matched contents of the president's daily brief, highly classified he received each morning "wall street journal" reported today of it not until september 22, that the pdb was updated to. if that it true, g.o.p. lawmaker will want to know why it was so different from cia's own draft talking points when almost identified al qaeda affiliates as purpose operators -- perpetrators, if you could indulge one personal note, i have spent 19 years working on book of watergate there are a lot of comparisons floating around right now. one point i want to make for historical accuracy, president nixon never ordered or saw or touched the president's list. lou: that is why we took care to say they were among charges of impeachment not that he committed such acts. >>
. >> reporter: cia station chief in libya cabled home that benghazi was a terrorist attack, and first version of cia talking points on benghazi drafted september 15 started we do know that islamicki extremists were tied. >> reporter: president obama did disclose today that talking points delivered by his u.n. ambassador, quote pretty much matched contents of the president's daily brief, highly classified he received each morning "wall street journal" reported today of it...
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where is it in the cia draft. we know what the cia draft was. where was the story line it all happened because of spontaneous demonstrations provoked by an anti-muslim video. where is that in the cia talking points? i don't see that. i don't see it at all. >> i don't see it at all. >> that's right. they had the absolute facts and the state department and the white house -- look, we don't know precisely who did this, but this a saturday morning, the cia, they are toll to excite all those comments. i don't think that's the spokeswoman over there, i don't think it's ben rhodes, neither one of those should be telling the deputy director of the the cia what to put in something or what not to put into something. who is the heavy that told them to take it out and who is the heavy in the drama that came up with the stupid lie it was the video? >> so we have three big scandals now engulfing the white house. we have benghazi, the irs scandal and the holder justice department secretly seizing the phone records of the a.p. now the lap dog media of that neve
where is it in the cia draft. we know what the cia draft was. where was the story line it all happened because of spontaneous demonstrations provoked by an anti-muslim video. where is that in the cia talking points? i don't see that. i don't see it at all. >> i don't see it at all. >> that's right. they had the absolute facts and the state department and the white house -- look, we don't know precisely who did this, but this a saturday morning, the cia, they are toll to excite all...
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russia is alleging this is a cia spy. judging from the evidence we've seen, the wigs, the sunglasses, do you believe them? >> i don't know. i'm not sure this is the case. there could be some theater here, too. the russians like to play this up when they get a spy. remember, putin, former kgb officer, is president of the country. there are tensions in the relationship over a whole host of things. so if they did get somebody involved in espionage, they may want to deter, you know, further espionage as well as russians from participating in espionage. there may be some theater involved here. >> the other part that seems like theater because it just can't be that a cia official would be this stupid is that some russian outlets like "russia today" are reporting on the english translation of a letter they obtained from mr. fogle including telling a potential double agent to go to an internet cafe, create a g-mail account, don't use your personal information. and it's written down. it seems like this is the kind of thing, this k
russia is alleging this is a cia spy. judging from the evidence we've seen, the wigs, the sunglasses, do you believe them? >> i don't know. i'm not sure this is the case. there could be some theater here, too. the russians like to play this up when they get a spy. remember, putin, former kgb officer, is president of the country. there are tensions in the relationship over a whole host of things. so if they did get somebody involved in espionage, they may want to deter, you know, further...
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they say that a cia officer was detained on supposed suspicions of spying after he attempted to recruit a russian secret agent. he was under the guides of a diplomat and written introductions and a large sum of money when he was detained. sounds like a tom clancy novel. to minnesota where later mark dayton will sign the same-sex marriage bill into law. the house passed it 75-79. wettings between same-sex couples can be as early as august 1st. florida senator's marco rubio's super park will defend on gun control. ayotte was criticized in her state. she say mother and a former state attorney general and knows how to be tough on crime. i have to say i don't remember a candidate running an ad to help someone i hope will endorse him should he run in 2016. governor chris cristy is explaining where his campaign aired a negative ad. she said i would have run a purely positive campaign and he will finish it. the latest ad is called out for raising taxes. the second tv ad and part of an $800,000 media purchase. >> politics is a family business. john kerry's brother will be secretary of commerce a
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now i should point out that cia director, we're told, the cia deputy director agreed with that change. so bottom line, erin, there's plenty in these e-mails for both sides to make their case which means this issue isn't going to go away any time soon. >> no, absolutely. and, of course, john boehner has already requested more data. on that note, dana, speaker boehner's office, i'm just looking at the note here from a spokesman brendan buck that we received, right, saying we hope this limited release of documents is a sign of more cooperation to come. they want a lot more information. >> they do. we should also remind our viewers that as late as today, this morning, john boehner had a press conference demanding the white house do exactly what they did tonight. so, you know, we should make that point clear because this is exactly what he was asking for. but you're right, erin. they're saying this is not enough. he said this is not enough. they believe there are other, in their words, "relevant documents" that the white house still won't produce. they're saying this is a hopeful sign of t
now i should point out that cia director, we're told, the cia deputy director agreed with that change. so bottom line, erin, there's plenty in these e-mails for both sides to make their case which means this issue isn't going to go away any time soon. >> no, absolutely. and, of course, john boehner has already requested more data. on that note, dana, speaker boehner's office, i'm just looking at the note here from a spokesman brendan buck that we received, right, saying we hope this...
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fox news, chief washington correspondent james rosen has our report. >> these were cia drafted and cia finalized talking points. >> reporter: state department insisted this 94 pages of e-mail released wednesday by obama administration show it was the cia that drove the editing of the false talking points to benghazi. but e-mails reveal then state department spokeswoman victoria new land, and secretary of state david adams were major players in process demanding deletion of references on -- >> those were concerns that we know and have known that cia also shared. >> reporter: true to cia general council steven preston claimed early on that fbi had given quote, express instructs not to issue any statements identifying the attackers. a cia official e-mails his colleague at langly at 9:15:00 p.m. that fateful friday to say quote, state department had major reservation with much or most of the document we havevised document with their concerns in mind, when new land cited fbi investigation as reason for deleting terrorism reverends a cia official shot back, quote, the fbi did not have major
fox news, chief washington correspondent james rosen has our report. >> these were cia drafted and cia finalized talking points. >> reporter: state department insisted this 94 pages of e-mail released wednesday by obama administration show it was the cia that drove the editing of the false talking points to benghazi. but e-mails reveal then state department spokeswoman victoria new land, and secretary of state david adams were major players in process demanding deletion of...